Opened 11 years ago

Closed 11 years ago

#27 closed task (wontfix)

position on salinity

Reported by: John Graybeal Owned by:
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Description

Salinity is not mentioned in UCUM units pages. Assuming that this reflects an intentional decision that salinity does not have units, it would nonetheless be helpful to have a description of that conclusion on the web page. Reference also recent discussions at http://www.oceanographers.net/forums/showthread.php?t=902 and in CF metadata list (http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata).

Change History (2)

comment:1 Changed 11 years ago by Gunther Schadow

Here is the text from the link. It is a very nice piece as it backs our mistrust against these arbitrary units that people like to make up when really there is no scientific reason to have them.

This is an e-mail distributed by Gay Ingram and Frank J. MIllero:

Recently I have become upset by the use of the term PSU by oceanographers and some marine chemists in published articles. The term apparently is used to denote the use of the Practical Salinity Scale and is an abbreviation for Practical Salinity Unit.

As a member of the Joint Panel on oceanographic Tables and Standards that was instrumental in the development of the international equation of state of sea water and the practical salinity scale, I am amazed at the practice that seems to have been adopted by oceanographers in using PSU. The practical salinity scale was defined as conductivity ratio with no units. A seawater sample with a conductivity ratio of 1.0 at 15 Celsius with a KCl solution containing a mass of 32.4356 g in a total mass of 1 kg of solution has a salinity of 35.000 (no units or ‰ are needed). The salinity (0.1 to 40) and temperature (0 to 40 Celsius) dependence of this ratio for seawater weight evaporated or diluted with water led to the full definition of the practical salinity scale. This definition was adopted by all the National and International Oceanographic Organizations. It also was published in all the journals publishing oceanographic studies.

Somewhere along the line oceanographers started to use the term PSU (practical salinity unit) to indicate that the practical salinity scale was used to determine conductivity salinity. This apparently resulted from the previous use of o/oo to represent parts per thousand which some oceanographers felt was a unit. Some authors use the PSU term for salinity that has not been measured by condutivity or is outside of the salinity range of the original measurements. The bottom line is that salinity has always been a ratio and does not have physical units. The use of the term PSU should not be permitted in the field and certainty not used in published papers. Whenever the practical salinity scale is used to determine salinity this should be stated some where in the paper. The use of the term PSS can be used to indicate that the Practical Salinity Scale is used, but it should not be used as a physical unit. One certainly does not have to use the term PSU or PSS on all the figures showing TS data. I should also point out that UNESCO (1985) has published a SUN report that carefully outlines the use of units in the field of oceanography. This report was also adopted by all the International Oceanographic Societies, but is not generally used by oceanographers and the journals publishing oceanographic data. The field of oceanography must adopt and use the units that are basic to the fields of chemistry and physics.

UNESCO (1985) The international system of units (SI) in oceanography, UNESCO Technical Papers No. 45, IAPSO Pub. Sci. No. 32, Paris, France.

Gay A. Ingram, Associate Editor, Marine Chemistry, RSMAS, MAC, University of Miami, Miami, FL 33149

comment:2 Changed 11 years ago by Gunther Schadow

Resolution: wontfix
Status: newclosed

Now, therefore, since "Salinity" is not a Units of Measure concept, and "PSU" should not be used for a unit of measure, there is no place to put this into the UCUM discussion. However, this is an interesting contribution to link to from the ProcedureDefinedUnits project.

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